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Jam Jar · Mar 30, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

I was wondering if talents existed. I mean how would you receive them? Through your genes? Or is it what you have learned so far in your life, and combining them into knowledge to study something else, and you find that you are really good in it.

Just curious O_O.

Aera · Mar 30, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

I guess it's a good combination of genes and body structure. Combine that with something you like and thus practice it and learn it more quickly: talent.

Celestial_Kitsune · Mar 30, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Talent is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

Thorondor Port · Mar 30, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

OP answered own question in own post..

poobert · Mar 30, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Thorondor Port

OP answered own question in own post..

Thats a very useful talent to have. I wonder if it is genetic

Most talent is arguably from genetics or they just work hard when you are not looking, then make like they haven't done anything at all.

Jam Jar · Mar 31, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune

Talent is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

Your avatar kinda makes this scary.

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Originally Posted by poobert

Most talent is arguably from genetics or they just work hard when you are not looking, then make like they haven't done anything at all.

So does that mean the hours I've spent PvPing were suppose to make me better? Cause I still suck!

**cosyfiep** · Apr 01, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

part is from mom and dad (or in my case grandpa and mom) part just IS....

case in point, I am a great baker as was my grandpa not my mom, well if its not cookies she wasnt very good at it (no offence)....I also got some art talent from her...as well as musical ability.

I know of others who have talents that they cant figure out---like great musicians without a single person in the family able to carry a tune (without an ipod)....

so some is family and some just IS.

Jam Jar · Apr 02, 2008, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Basically, some comes from your genes while other talents are self developed through your childhood, things that affected you, etc.

Drakken Breathes Fire · Apr 05, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Redbull and Jagermeister.

The Real Roy Keane · Apr 05, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune

Talent is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

Not always true. You or I could train every bit as hard as a professional footballer and never be a quarter as good.

Tyla · Apr 05, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

It's based on many things.
Inspiration, body structure, perseverance (however you spell it), training and yes, genes.
Sometimes you develope things without even noticing. Sometimes you use your own talents when you don't even know you have them. It's based on many, many factors.
This is just what I think, anyway.

sph0nz · Apr 05, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

I don't believe talent exists. It's merely skill; it may be developed at an early stage, but it's still skill. Notice how people only seem to give praise when somebody is young, or does something "out of the norm" (such as being able to paint or play an instrument extremely well at a young age). These are things which some may consider "talent" (that is, something you're inherently born with), and I strongly disagree.
The problem is that you cannot perceive the difference between so-called "talent" and "skill"; what is the distinction, exactly? Why would you rate somebody's "natural-born skill" (talent) anyway?

Malice Black · Apr 05, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Life is like GW (or the other way around)

Time>Skill

lakatz · Apr 05, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

The nature vs nurture question gets closer to an answer every day but is still not there. The scientists only just finished blueprinting the human genome in 2000, and they started that project officially in 1989. True, they first began looking at the human gene on the microscopic level in the 1970s, but there wasn't an official program until 1989.

So for the time being we only have behavioral studies to deduce assumptions from, and, of course, those are subject to skewing by so many factors.

From my own personal experience, it's hard to tell about visual artistic talent. I'm the only one of four siblings who exhibits any degree of drawing and painting talent; however, all four of us have fashion and color sense, as did our father and his siblings. And our mother clearly didn't have any visual talent, while her mother was talented at drawing and painting. Was it my interest in recreating people, things and places on paper and canvas and my parents' encouragement that nurtured my talent or was it a genetic predisposition that triggered my interest? It's hard to tell.

The Wyeth family is an interesting study in nature vs nurture as well with three generations of successful artists. And I'm not just talking about the usual suspects, N.C., Andrew and Jamie Wyeth. Henrietta Wyeth Hurd and her two sons Peter and Michael Hurd are successful artists as well. N.C. Wyeth nurtured and influenced the two generations succeeding him, but was there a genetic predisposition as well?

In the case of musical talent, however, I believe it's possible to distinguish a stronger nature (genetic) influence on talent than nurture. Young children able to recreate entire musical passages after hearing them only once and coming from a family that didn't emphasize music in the home is very telling.

Good question Jam Jar... but as far as I can tell, there still is no definitive answer. Maybe soon. But when you google for an answer you can see the debate rages still.

That said, I tend to believe that a genetic predisposition toward interest in the area where we develop our particular talent is stronger than the environmental influences.

Drakken Breathes Fire · Apr 05, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Not to mention, there are singers today who sing everyday, and still suck at it.
You either have it, or you don't.

Shadowz Love · Apr 06, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

I think talent is just finding something that your naturally good at and that you enjoy doing,